http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#e502942b-f199-439d-8094-4c52a805b199 I wouldn't worry too much. They understand that you had a life before you decided to change your religion. Perhaps you could mention it to them beforehand with the intention of clarfying your understanding of halachic laws re: tattoos. You are a Noahide and it is natural and accepted to ask questions. Good luck! Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:22:09 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#e502942b-f199-439d-8094-4c52a805b199 Celestial 2008-07-26T20:22:09Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#f06ca6c7-6d50-45f8-9ec0-a77b16ad361c I am studying Judaism for the purpose of conversion, if at the end I feel this is what I need to do. I am worried about my tattoos showing during taking the mikvah in front of the Rabbis. I am studying via the Conservative route. It's cool to hear of even Rabbis who are getting tatted. And after reading some of the responses I don 't feel too out-of-the-ordinary. Thank you all. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:02:32 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#f06ca6c7-6d50-45f8-9ec0-a77b16ad361c tarotamerica 2008-07-24T22:02:32Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3e5dc07c-a99b-4579-9809-2ec6c6af91ad I remember researching this back in college before I got my first tattoo...I seem to remember finding it referenced in a book on Talmudic law that referenced the "thou shalt not worship false idols" commandment. I think perhaps other cultures that existed during the time the law was created probably used tattoo as a form of carrying their "graven images" with them. I'm a big believer in the interpretation of laws as they apply to the current world we live in, laws should always be "living" documents....this is the main reason I personally don't follow the dietary laws....they had a time and place in keeping people healthy and preserving the culture.....but are now pretty much antiquated. The law against tattooing, in my interpretation, only applies as far as tattooing images for the purpose of worship.....I'm not worshiping the images in my tattoos, nor is anyone else.....they are for me, art, memorium, and catharsis.....and therefore are just fine. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:14:35 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3e5dc07c-a99b-4579-9809-2ec6c6af91ad Slinky 2007-04-12T04:14:35Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#415c0123-6839-425b-9abf-0bfdccae0ae1 yikes... I cannot count how many bacon cheeseburgers Ive eatin. Its like masturbation, once is never enough! Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:30:22 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#415c0123-6839-425b-9abf-0bfdccae0ae1 Gothalot 2007-01-29T18:30:22Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d0e31c99-2cb0-4f7f-b7b9-4776cccb6caa The "burial thing" is actually a myth. As I have heard from several rabbis that I have personally questioned on the subject matter: "It is most likely a myth created by Jewish mothers who were trying any means necessary to convince their children not to get a tattoo." The same rabbis explained to me that yes, it's a rule in the bible, but is it something that is no more forbidden than say, eating bacon. So by comparison, saying you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery for having a tattoo would equate to not being granted burial in a Jewish cemetery because you ate a bacon-double cheeseburger. Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:23:54 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d0e31c99-2cb0-4f7f-b7b9-4776cccb6caa Monkey Dude 2007-01-19T07:23:54Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#caf7d4d3-1821-4d3d-befa-568e303ab22d I thought it also had to do with not wanting to mirror contemporary pagan practices of marking the skin with graven images, of idols and dieties. You shall not make any false images etc etc... In fact, there is a tattoo shop near here called Graven Images. Awesome.. So is the whole burial thing custom or law? Would the coroner or mortician really examine my corpse and proclaim, "My god, this girl is a heathen, she cannot be buried with her ancestors in that blessed portion of ground that arbitrarily ends at that fence... Throw her coffin in with the rest of the idol-worshipping tattooed folk into this spiritually corrupt burial plot and call it a day..." Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:55:34 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#caf7d4d3-1821-4d3d-befa-568e303ab22d Waffle Princess 2006-11-25T19:55:34Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#2ae92e2c-65b2-4c40-9919-571096734464 1. If god created humans...then he created tattoos as well. 2. If people wont get tattoos because of the holocaust then they are still living in the past...LIVE YOUR LIFE!!! it could be very short 3. You think people in Israel have no tattoos?? you want to see a real war??...when the orthodox wont allow deceased Israeli soldiers with tattoos to get buried in Jewish cemeteries 4. making a tattoo is against the "Bible rules"...do we even follow the rest of these "rules"...i know i don't...DO YOU?? Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:00:31 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#2ae92e2c-65b2-4c40-9919-571096734464 Eyal 2006-08-02T04:00:31Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#dd1cdda2-3c19-4bb2-9d36-329c56b56c89 Do we have to live in a society where we have to go by the rules of our elders? It is a different way of life today, and seriously, does it matter to you if you cannot be buried in a Jewish Cemetary just 'cause you're tatted up? When we're dead, we're dead. I haven't been struck by lightning as of yet, so, maybe my tatts are not as much of an issue. Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:36:44 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#dd1cdda2-3c19-4bb2-9d36-329c56b56c89 Lady 2006-06-25T19:36:44Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#c4e06489-6e00-4b75-8b63-b66f835c168d "In the Bible Old testament, Leviticus 18:26 or 29 says thou shalt not make any permanent matkings in your skin or somesuch" Cicumcision seems pretty permanent to me. I'm just saying.... Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:33:35 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#c4e06489-6e00-4b75-8b63-b66f835c168d LiaBear 2006-06-14T08:33:35Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#34913e26-280d-4cf3-948f-29bc96a27748 What about all white pancake makeup? Vicious can you be buried in a Jewish cemetary with THAT on? Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:32:18 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#34913e26-280d-4cf3-948f-29bc96a27748 LiaBear 2006-06-14T08:32:18Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#cf0fb72c-9824-48a1-9246-e4b58858ea48 I'm going to die and decay. God doesn't care about my tattoos. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:38:22 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#cf0fb72c-9824-48a1-9246-e4b58858ea48 Myles 2006-06-14T05:38:22Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d9dd5ec6-a1f0-420c-a2a0-3da6a8941f87 Plastic sugery should probably not be allowed, it seems. For teh same reasons. Wonder what the orthodox say about THAT. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:17:08 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d9dd5ec6-a1f0-420c-a2a0-3da6a8941f87 Vicious 2006-06-14T05:17:08Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3d38ceee-30ea-4592-9056-aa1781e6c0c1 sounds strange to this goyim, If we follow logic hows that it is acceptable to circumsize? and how are injections allowed? as well as surgery? Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:48:47 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3d38ceee-30ea-4592-9056-aa1781e6c0c1 abject 2006-06-13T04:48:47Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#1fa6c4e0-a52e-406e-be57-374a0458c74d Personally, I'm tired of these people talking about jewishgateway.com and asking all these stupid questions. Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:39:30 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#1fa6c4e0-a52e-406e-be57-374a0458c74d $item.owner.firstName 2006-04-06T01:39:30Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#0c12f772-1af0-4563-9b4d-827262b455cf My rabbi told me that the law was intended to stop the practice of cutting oneself when in mourning. That's why we cut our clothes instead. I figure if Jews with nose jobs can get buried in Jewish cemeteries, that Jews with tattoos should too. Although, the whole buriel thing is a big waste of space as far as I'm concerned. Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:38:58 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#0c12f772-1af0-4563-9b4d-827262b455cf LiaBear 2006-04-04T04:38:58Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d5edc901-a1ce-4da8-acde-984508bbebc8 The law that makes tattoos taboo for Jews is Leviticus 19:28, which states: "You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves: I am the Lord." (This is also why Orthadox Jews do not allow piercings.) Judaism has always seen our bodies as a gift from God and believes that you should use your body as a house for your soul, keeping it in as pristine a condition as possible. However, times are a-changin'. According to my Rabbi, these days a tattoo will not necessarily prevent you from being buried in a Jewish cemetary. It is becoming more and more commonplace and I was told that there have been Jews buried by our own synagogue that have had a few tattoos... and in a Jewish cemetery, no less. There are even Orthadox Jews that are getting tattooed discreetly for their own personal reasons. I know a Reform Rabbi that is getting a tattoo very soon... and I'm going along and getting one myself. I figure what's good enough for the Rabbi is good enough for me and I've wanted this since I was 14. I'll be 36 (double Chai) this year, so I figure I'm old enough. Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:30:52 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#d5edc901-a1ce-4da8-acde-984508bbebc8 $item.owner.firstName 2006-04-03T03:30:52Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#b4d48ed1-ed81-450b-b889-8226d031cd91 In the Bible Old testament, Leviticus 18:26 or 29 says thou shalt not make any permanent matkings in your skin or somesuch, Orthodox Jews do not pierce their ears (or anything else). And under rabbinical law piercings and tattoos will keep you from being buried in a Jewish Cemetary. Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:03:32 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#b4d48ed1-ed81-450b-b889-8226d031cd91 Stream723 2006-03-26T21:03:32Z http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3b6b583e-677a-486b-8494-2b36ffd2b02c Where does it state that jewish people are not allowed to have tattoos? And why are jewish people not allowed to have tatoos? There is a debate about this on http://www.jewishgateway.com and I wanted to know inform some folks there! Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:48:12 GMT http://jewswithtattoos.tribe.net/thread/1918aedd-831f-494b-8329-0cc53148ed5a#3b6b583e-677a-486b-8494-2b36ffd2b02c Katie 2006-03-24T19:48:12Z